IBCs and Friends

by **whykay** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:35 pm

Ok, from the recent posts about the Chinese new year ( http://kaykays.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=126 ), I have created this forum to talk about how we feel about having a Chinatown... :wink:

by **mary887766** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:08 am

i think it is a good idea with all the chinese around here......but i think it will get dominated by triads and mainland chinese ppl......id like to have some good proper chinese restaurants like in londons chinatown.....mmmmm

by **whykay** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:21 am

mmmmm, agreed. London Chinatown has the best Chinese in UK, followed by Holland.... then HK.

by **Ford Prefect** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:43 am

mary887766 wrote:i think it is a good idea with all the chinese around here......but i think it will get dominated by triads and mainland chinese ppl......id like to have some good proper chinese restaurants like in londons chinatown.....mmmmm

Er. The "mainland" chinese come from China so it is natural that they would "dominate" a Chinatown. And if you look there is already a Cinatown down around Moore St. Its not a NY style Chinatown but the genesis of one. Why specify who is more Chinese or more acceptably Chinese? DOes this mean that there are different rules for Singaporean or Malaysian or Vietnamise Chinese too?

As for being dominated by triads it would only happen if we let it. Its like saying that Irish business is dominated by the IRA. Which it isn't. These people can be detained and deported. We have laws against extortion, terrorism, murder and not having a Chinatown because of the fear of a few hard chaws is ridiculous.

by **mary887766** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:10 pm

well.......if u take a look around all the major chinese restaurants in ireland, they are already giving 'insurance' money to triads which is ridiculous but its just the way it is. my mams boyfriend owns a small takeaway in blessington and it has been visited by triads. in moore st i always see triads, even some of their meeting places i know. i used to work in an internet shop for about a year and triads would also stir trouble....e.g going on internet for free, ruining the place if they dont get their money, even one of my ex bosses is in jail now for murder on oconnell st(maybe u heard that on the news in summer2002) and not too long ago, someone got stabbed in the shop.so i doubt that ppl will try stop letting them take over...........plus wheres the chinatown for hk ppl and locals? we wont get much of it if its taken over by the mainland chinese(not to be racist or anything!)

by **whykay** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:40 pm

Well, being 2nd generation Chinese, I do notice that there are certain divides. We don't do it intentionally, but people just go to their own groups (not everyone, some do mix), but majority would. HK folks, Macauans, even different regions of Mainland Chinese have their own groups. Then other Asian groups like Malaysians, Singaporeans, Thais etc.. etc...
For some reason we just don't really hang with each other. It's like folks from D4 don't hang with someone from some troubled area, as an example (prob a bad one.. so sorry if I offended anyone!). Whether it is down to class, spoken language, whatever... but I find that 2nd generation would be much more open "other groups".
Triads can be a sensitive issue, which brings bad publicity to locals. But what's there is there, like any other gangs, and crime happens all the time. Chinese like to keep their heads down and keep their own business to themselves. It's our own issues, and resolving it or bearing with it is our own way. Local gardai does not really help, it's like the movies, they come when peeps that cause trouble are miles away. :roll:

So publicity is the last thing we need, and we like to keep to the background.

by **mary887766** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:02 pm

i suppose........

by **whykay** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:38 pm

I've so many ideas to open a shop, but what is the use, too much hassle...

Think I wold better off have an online site selling stuff instead,
But there are so many opportunities out there... sigh! What would be an ideal Chinatown here. What would folks want? CD shop, comic/mag shop etc...

by **mary887766** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:07 pm

u can rent a stall in the chinese new year thing in smithfield for a few days.......hehe....^0^

by **whykay** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:52 pm

No thank you. Too expensive. And even to promote my site, the non-profit stalls are expensive. Anyway, my dad is not so sure about this committee who is organising it. No-one seems to talk about it, and Uncle P. from Asian Market never mentioned to my dad. He received an info pack and it quite suspicious about it.

I'll just hang around a little and take pictures for my site, and maybe I might meet some IBCs out there. :wink:

by **mary887766** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 11:47 pm

o is your uncle the guy that owns asia market? cos i know him.......well my mom knows him better.......

by **whykay** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:12 am

I call him uncle, but not my relation. He's stil my elder and one of my dad's close friends.

by **mary887766** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 4:20 pm

o....icic....

by **danjl** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:47 pm

I'm a non-IBC whose going out with a MBC, and she's volunteered her services for the Chinatown Festival and has heard damn all about it.
Christ! Everybody seems to be in the dark.

As a Limerick man living in Dublin, it would be great if they could do something similar in Limerick, so that Chinese people who don't live near the capital (say, Galway or Cork, for example) could have more of an opportunity to get involved. It would also help create a more positive image of Chinese culture and Limerick (message to people in Dublin - its not as bad as you think) among the rest of the country.

by **mary887766** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:48 pm

sorry i know im stupid but whats a MBC?
malaysian born chinese?cant think of anywhere else beginning with M.....

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